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PostSubject: Talk me into it/out of it   Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:25 am

Ok, decision time.

With my build (lvl57) I can either go H&R Ele, or satan psy.

I was set on satan psy, 'cause I didn't want to need support to play.
But support seems a bit easier to find on Mush, and I've read that a h&r ele can also work without an rm. I wouldn't need any expensive equip at lvl60, either (have Stick of Vel Parpone, casts very very fast).

afai work out, ele and psy will take similar time to get to lvl 65 (as neither have an aoe). possibly psy has the edge, with crucio helping deal with aggros.

Elementor lvl 65-70
Just elemented aoes, no windfield. So I'd struggle without an rm.

Psy lvl 65-70
Mostly gianthunting and attacking 9lvls higher, using satan.


I have a fairly laggy connection, so that is a factor.
It seems to me that post lvl 70 the h&r elementor has a big advantage over statan psy. Below that, it's debatable. Even if I can't afford a guardian wand, I can buy a bunch of shields and awaken them.
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PostSubject: Re: Talk me into it/out of it   Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:27 am

Windfield is a level 65 skill, btw.

Laggy connection = don't mess with HnR ele. Stick with your psy and tweak his build / equips as you see fit.

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PostSubject: Re: Talk me into it/out of it   Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:38 am

windfield at 65? Hmm. I read a crummy guide, then.

I think the deciding factor is the lag. Can't get around that.

I can awaken shields to tweak my build. Heck, with a good enough awakening + piercing, I could even go crucio. That's a big factor, really. V12 is not kind to Eles or Rangers. Shame, 'cause I think rangers are very cool. They're just nerfed all round. Bring back Ice arrow slow effect, you b'stards!

I think I will pump my STA up a bit, tho. Maybe up to 40. INT rings are cheaper than STA rings.
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PostSubject: Re: Talk me into it/out of it   Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:49 pm

You really want to AoE AND giant hunt?

If you have a higher leveled friend that's willing to help out, I have a very sneaky method to let your Satan Psy "AoE". Just let your friend tank for you Ridicule

Or just get +15-20 stamrings and awakened wands/shields, either way is fine. The good thing about that is, you can swap your bling when you giant hunt.

If you're rich. It's just an idea. Lag+H&R=a very sad panda.
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PostSubject: Re: Talk me into it/out of it   Tue Oct 07, 2008 1:28 am

PANDA!

Lag, don't go ele I'm afraid.
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PostSubject: Re: Talk me into it/out of it   Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:23 am

Yup, you've confirmed it.

I'm not rich, and determined not to turn into a CS spammer.

I think the best route is Satan Psy, and awakened shields. It's a big advantage for the class - I can spend 5 mill and be guaranteed to get a couple of good shields out of it.

Heck of a lot cheaper than upgrading with Spros and using restats.
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PostSubject: Re: Talk me into it/out of it   Tue Oct 07, 2008 4:18 am

Good choice, but I still think this will end up being a gianting character due to the slow lvling.
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PostSubject: Re: Talk me into it/out of it   Sat Oct 18, 2008 8:15 pm

Aoe psy.
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